David- I have had 45+ years with cactus and no commercial grower is going to risk losing his business growing this. Alright you get me a plant or pi cture and I will shut up but my family has been in the plant business since the 1800's and I have handled more cactus than you. At one flower shower in Phoenix I had to rent a Uhaul truck just to bring in part of what I had to display to the public. I know hundreds of growers around the world from Australia, Greece, Italy, Bulgaria, Thailand, Great Britain and on and on. I have taught Plant Taxonomy to College Graduate Students. Why do you insist it must be Lophophora growing in theses dish gardens. I have seen thousands of these planters and know many of the people that put them together. I have been in more private collection than you could ever imagine. I only know of one private grower with this plant, that is in North America excluding Mexico. Oh I have also been in most of the greenhouses in Vista, CA too, So what I am asking is show me some proof. If you cannot afford a digital camera I will get you one. Russ H. In a message dated 4/6/2013 5:16:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, idavide@sbcglobal.net writes: Sue, No one who really knows cactus would ever confuse Ariocarpus with Lophophora. And Lophophora was certainly sold as part of a dish garden in gift shops. I think Tim and Jadeboy are confusing the harmless commerce in gifts with genuine drug trafficking. The DEA certainly does not confuse the two. And I certainly would not confuse Ariocarpus with Lophophora! David E. ________________________________ From: Sue Haffner <sueh@csufresno.edu> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Sat, April 6, 2013 4:18:01 PM Subject: Re: [pbs] Peyote?? I wonder if the original post might refer to Ariocarpus, rather than Lophophora. I've seen ariocarpus plants in touristy dish gardens. Sue Haffner _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/