Peyote??
Jadeboy48@aol.com (Sat, 06 Apr 2013 12:29:11 PDT)

Look, my Partner and I raised thousands of species of cactus for
comercial/private sale. It may be possible to illegaly collect seed or a cutting but
why bother. I find the flower pretty boring. As far as the number of
species in this genus it is probably only one with a number of variants. If you
grow this plant just keep it to yourself. If the feds charged you with
intent to distribute and won the case your property can be seized because of the
anti drug laws( house,cars, personal posessions, jewelry .cash etc). Now
there are a number of people that have one tiny plant and no one really
cares. The genus all have drugs in them related to LSD. I thought everyone in
the cactus world knew this, it is no secret. Native American tribes have
been using a water infusion of the dried cap of the plant to ceate visions.
But let me warn you this is not a pleasant experience!!, You will vomit your
guts out for up to several days. Native Americans are under .certain
conditions are allowed to raise the plant but it is considered sacred. This is
not some toy to play with for a good time! I would suggest the plant be only
grown in protected locations,like locked gardens but with available for
study to serious people. A dried piece of the cactus is called a button and
has a high streetvalue, It used to be common in the SW but over collecting
has wiped it out in some areas, It grows slowly from seed and rarely
offsets. Among my many jobs I did research in the area of NE Mexico . Pus was
around the plant for about10 years so I could probably answer any question,
Just never collect this Genus in old Mexoco, Thr drug laws are very, very
harsh with long sentences!
I really thought this was all common knowledge. When my Partner became
ill we gave a outmany of plants to anyont that could use them. Let us make
the workd a more lovely place by growing flowers and garden plants! Russ H.

In a message dated 4/6/2013 11:47:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
tim@gingerwoodnursery.com writes:

Lophophora williamsii is a schedule 1 drug plant. All parts of it growing
or not are Illegal to possess without a DEA license. I can assure you
cactus bowl sellers do not have DEA licenses. I don't know the date of it
becoming scheduled so perhaps it was available in the past. It is clearly on
the list now.

I don't grow any cactus so don't know about this genus and its other spp ,
but California's own law forbids growing ANY species in this genus.

Tim Chapman

I do not agree with you. Lophophora williamsii is a well known plant.

It is

similar to L. diffusa, but they can be distinguished. When I lived in

L.A.,

I was somewhat of an expert on cactus and grew many. Among my plants

was L.

williamsii, and of course it flowered for me.

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