Publicly, you sound like the most sour old fellow I ever met. Insulting people seems to be your hobby. But... something positive (although obviously unintended) came out of it. I met a kindred spirit enthusiast who lives 30 miles away, not 500 and across the border. Enjoy your effort Leo! Bea By the way, judging by the number of people writing me privately for unobtainable plant material, this is by far the most gullible plant group to which I subscribe. Leo Martin _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/