Sternbergia
Jadeboy48@aol.com (Fri, 05 Apr 2013 00:18:43 PDT)

Dear Shmuel, I hope very much that you can collect Sternbergia seed, there
seems to be two different varieties available. One is sterile and does not
produce seed, the other (which looks just like it) is fertile and produces
seed. When you collect the seed please look to see if there is anything
that looks like a seed or bulb growing maybe on a stem or leave base. Some
plants put out tiny bulbs to reproduce if they don't produce seed. Many
lilies do this. Thanks for your help-Russ H.
PS: Yes here in the USA Sternbergia blooms in the fall,it has a golden
color. I also work with Iris from desert areas. I would gladly buy any seed
from iris you can collect. Just note size of plant, any trace of flower color
and any details about the seed source plant. Thanks Russ Hintz, email is
jadeboy48@aol.com

In a message dated 4/4/2013 11:56:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
gardenbetter@gmail.com writes:

Am I mistaken? Sternbergia lutea here is an autumn bloomer. It is native
herein Israel and I will be on the lookout for seed. I wonder if the ones
I planted are actually from native stock or if they made the "great circle
route" and are imported by the nursery trade from Holland?

Shmuel Silinsky
Jerusalem Israel
zone 9, winter rain - dry summer

On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 5:34 AM, <Jadeboy48@aol.com> wrote:

Dear Jim ,Thanks for your information. I am very familiar when you have a
self sterility problem with certain flowers. As a retired grower once I
know once other growers find a clone of something that grows well and has
some
good qualities growers will just multiply that clone.The problem is

losing

genetic diversity. One disease can wipe out a susceptible clone and then

it

is gone, maybe forever.-Russ H.

In a message dated 3/29/2013 5:48:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
jshields@indy.net writes:

Another possibility is that we are seeing one single clone making up the
commercial stock of Sternbergia. It is probably self-sterile, as many
other plants in the Amaryllidaceae are. All you might need to get seeds
would be some live pollen from a different clone of the same species.

Another problem is that S. lutea occurs as triploid (2n = 3x = 33) as

well

as the diploid (2n = 22) form. Triploids are usually sterile. See:
http://cites.com/

http://bulbs.myspecies.info/content/…

I would guess that you will have to find seeds of the diploid form,

from

one of the seed exchanges or from someone like the Archibalds. Good
luck!

Jim Shields

At 08:23 PM 3/29/2013 +1300, you wrote:

Russ, Sternbergia does not set seed. It is something to do with diploi

d

or whatever. Do you have one which does set seed, as there is a seed
setting one. But the most often grown one does not set seed.

Ina

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