pbs Digest, Vol 123, Issue 27 peyote

pbs Digest, Vol 123, Issue 27 peyote
miss_mante@yahoo.co.uk (Sun, 07 Apr 2013 10:10:48 PDT)

Hello everyone.
I am quite new to growing bulbs but i've been reading all the info in the emails. Recently there has been a subject which i know a bit more about.
I am a member of british cactus and succulent society. I wanted to share some information about peyote in this country. I am not sure if it has been confirmed as illegal but i know that it is being sold everywhere - garden centres, cactus shows and mail order. It is not hard to find!
I understand that a few decades ago this plant has been used for it's hallucinogenic purposes but i don't see that happening amongst cacti growers :)

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Peyote?? (erick lux)
2. Re: Peyote?? (B Spencer)
3. Converting units (J. Denys Bourque)
4. Re: Weeds invading paved walkways (J. Denys Bourque)
5. What may be blooming in fall, 2017 - Brunsvigia litoralis
seedlings (Ken)
6. Re: Nematode control of Narcissus bulb fly (Mark BROWN)
7. Re: Converting units (B Spencer)
8. Re: Peyote?? (Shmuel Silinsky)
9. Re: Variegated Society Garlic - Winter Hardy? (Shmuel Silinsky)

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 20:05:08 -0500
From: erick lux <ericklux@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Peyote??
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Having been in the nursery biz in Southern California for 20 some years, I
never saw peyote in the trade---and I looked! I knew people that had them
in their private collections. I always thought Matucana sp looked similar.

When I went to Amsterdam a few years ago, and was glad to see so many plant
venders selling them openly. I wouldn't be surprised if there are more
Lophophora plants in The Netherlands than in the Southwest.

Cheers,
Erick

On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 7:16 PM, David Ehrlich <idavide@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Sue,
No one who really knows cactus would ever confuse Ariocarpus with
Lophophora.
And Lophophora was certainly sold as part of a dish garden in gift shops.
I
think Tim and Jadeboy are confusing the harmless commerce in gifts with
genuine
drug trafficking. The DEA certainly does not confuse the two. And I
certainly
would not confuse Ariocarpus with Lophophora!

David E.

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From: Sue Haffner <sueh@csufresno.edu>
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sat, April 6, 2013 4:18:01 PM
Subject: Re: [pbs] Peyote??

I wonder if the original post might refer to Ariocarpus, rather than
Lophophora. I've seen ariocarpus plants in touristy dish gardens.

Sue Haffner
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 21:56:19 -0400
From: B Spencer <bea.spencer@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Peyote??
To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Do they not do everything under the sun openly in the Netherlands? Sorry it
is not about bulbs. Could not resist!
Bea

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 07:36:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: "J. Denys Bourque" <jdbourq@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [pbs] Converting units
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One member wrote recently that he didn't feel like looking up some conversion from US to SI.
To convert anything to anything else, see the following site.
It's really got everything in SI, Imperial US + many, many other units, like league (several kinds).

http://www.onlineconversion.com/
I have it in my bookmarks and can access it fast.

?
J. Denys Bourque
Saint-Jacques, NB?? CANADA

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From: Leo A. Martin <leo@possi.org>
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Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 5:29:17 AM

...(I know it isn't measured that way in SI but I don't feel like looking up the density of
granulated sugar) and 1 pint / 480ml 3% hydrogen peroxide.

Leo Martin
Phoenix Arizona USA

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 07:48:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: "J. Denys Bourque" <jdbourq@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Weeds invading paved walkways
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Another member writes he has some
areas where couch grass (Agropyrum repens) is invading and that he will
have to redo the paving!

For what this is worth, I have a patch of creeping thyme [= serpolet??] that flowers beautifully and that I am extending throughout my lawn. I have observed that very few weeds grow in it, and those that do are very shallow rooted. I am now also considering it for the interstices between the flat stones in my footpaths. Anyway, they are steppable on.

?J. Denys Bourque
Saint-Jacques, NB?? CANADA

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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 21:13:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ken <kjblack@pacbell.net>
Subject: [pbs] What may be blooming in fall, 2017 - Brunsvigia
litoralis seedlings
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just thought I'd share this shot of some 18-month old Brunsvigia litoralis
seedlings ... just another?4 or so years to bloom.

http://flickr.com/photos/amarguy/…

Ken Blackford
happily back in San Diego, California!

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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 09:41:24 +0200 (CEST)
From: Mark BROWN <brown.mark@wanadoo.fr>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Nematode control of Narcissus bulb fly
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Many of my fellow gardeners use neem oil on their snowdrops and narcissi.
They are all very happy with it.
I have zillions of Narcissus pseudonarcissus wild in my region,(Haute Normandie) and never once had this pest. Most odd!
Kind regards,
Mark

Message du 06/04/13 23:05
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Objet : [pbs] Nematode control of Narcissus bulb fly

This writer says that Narcissus bulb fly can be controlled by nematodes: http://ipmnet.umd.edu/landscape/lndscpalerts/… See page 5. The nematode is Steinernema feltiae. It?s available from Home Depot (what isn?t?). http://homedepot.com/p/t/… Has anyone tried this? Any opinions? _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/

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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 07:35:09 -0400
From: B Spencer <bea.spencer@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Converting units
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Thank you Denys. I bookmarked it too.
Bea, Ontario

-----Original Message-----
From: J. Denys Bourque
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 10:36 AM
To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [pbs] Converting units

One member wrote recently that he didn't feel like looking up some
conversion from US to SI.
To convert anything to anything else, see the following site.
It's really got everything in SI, Imperial US + many, many other units, like
league (several kinds).

http://www.onlineconversion.com/
I have it in my bookmarks and can access it fast.

J. Denys Bourque
Saint-Jacques, NB CANADA

________________________________
From: Leo A. Martin <leo@possi.org>
To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 5:29:17 AM

...(I know it isn't measured that way in SI but I don't feel like looking
up the density of
granulated sugar) and 1 pint / 480ml 3% hydrogen peroxide.

Leo Martin
Phoenix Arizona USA

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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 11:04:28 -0400
From: Shmuel Silinsky <gardenbetter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Peyote??
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Lophophora is often found in cactus sections of nurseries here in Israel.

Shmuel
Jerusalem, Israel

On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 9:56 PM, B Spencer <bea.spencer@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Do they not do everything under the sun openly in the Netherlands? Sorry
it
is not about bulbs. Could not resist!
Bea

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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 11:09:10 -0400
From: Shmuel Silinsky <gardenbetter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Variegated Society Garlic - Winter Hardy?
To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Excellent, Jerry!

I usually consider the variegated form less vigorous than the all green
form.

Was it covered by snow? That can have a nice insulating effect - and it
sounds like your garden is pretty windproof.

Enjoy!

Shmuel Silinsky
Jerusalem Israel
USDA 9

On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 8:32 PM, <Jtlehmann@aol.com> wrote:

Last year I planted in my back yard a one-gallon pot of Variegated Society
Garlic, Tulbaghia violacea 'Variegata.'

Today I had a big surprise...it survived the winter and is growing. I
didn't expect it to survive; it wasn't even an experiment.

My back yard is a postage stamp, bordered by a 6' high solid wood fence,
and the plant is by a flagstone patio. Even with that, I can't justify my
back yard being two or more zones warmer, else I'd be growing palms.

Does this surprise anyone else? What really is the winter hardiness zone
for this plant?

--Jerry Lehmann, Olathe, KS, USA, zone 5
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