I thought for a long time before sending this message, but I feel I have to say something. I have never seen discussions on the PBS forum degenerate into name calling, as has happened recently. Using terms like 'bitter, sour, nasty' etc. is totally unacceptable. It is OK to disagree, but insulting terms are going far beyond the boundaries of polite discourse. This particular disagreement should have been done privately, since it didn't even involve bulbs. I deleted many messages without reading them, so it may have been even worse than the ones I opened. Leo Martin treated us all to a wonderful joke on April Fool's day. I laughed and laughed, and when some people 'bit' I laughed even more (and if it had been me, that would have been even better - isn't that the point of an April Fool's joke?). I still have images of Leo raking up Worsleya seedlings from his driveway, knocking them down from the power lines, etc., and it still makes me smile. Thank you Leo!! So, when he used the term 'gullible' which means trusting, naive, innocent, and even hopeful and optimistic (and you need plenty of all of those attributes to grow difficult bulbs), and was also insulted I felt mortally offended. I apologize to you Leo on behalf of all of us who got great enjoyment out of your joke. Please, don't hold back next year! Diana