Mary Sue, you're incredible! :-) PBS has brought me so much happiness in the last 10 years! Thank you for everything you've done to encourage PBS, this mailing group, the Bulb Garden newsletter, the BX, and of course the wiki! I strove to create my own Iris Species wiki for SIGNA, but it doesn't compare to the PBS wiki. As has already been mentioned PBS wiki the de facto site for any Google search. You're the best cat herder I've ever known!!! Dennis in Cincinnati