Mike: I do wonder if the IBS disbands what is the copyright status of their publications? There should be a section in their bylaws that deals with dissolution of the organization and what is the fate of their assets. Anyone actually have good info on this. Arnold On 04/28/13, Michael Mace wrote: Speaking as a former IBS member (and very minor contributor to Herbertia) who migrated to PBS... I think the whole situation is sad. When the first rumors about the IBS's fate first circulated a few months ago, I contacted them to see if we could do anything to help preserve the organization's photos and records. The good news is that, as Nhu noted, they're keeping backups of everything, continuing the website, and hoping to eventually get the organization restarted in the future. Which is great; I hope they can pull it off. The frustrating part, to me, is that the journal Herbertia has many decades of marvelous bulb information that's almost completely unavailable to the public. I bought some of the old issues when they were on sale, and they're fascinating, with articles from great bulb-growers who are no longer with us, like Sir Peter Smithers and Les Hannibal. Google has indexed all of this information but the IBS hasn't given permission to reproduce the articles. So you can find old articles from the journal but can't actually see them. If the IBS completely disbands without giving permission, the journals will fall into some sort of copyright limbo and I don't know if they can be extracted from it in our lifetimes. I wouldn't even mind if IBS put the articles on sale, but it drives me nuts to know that they are there but essentially unavailable. I think the lesson, if you run a plant group, is that you need to think now about what happens to your legacy. Oh and by the way, in this age of electronic publishing, those back issues of your journals are actually a potential source of revenue. Mike