Thanks, Mary Sue!! And congratulations for finally being able to retire. How you lasted, lo, these many years, I cannot fathom. (Of course, I should ask the same question of Dell Sherk, too!) Like others have said, what a lasting legacy to leave to others and the rest of the world. I am only ashamed that I did not contribute to the wiki over the years as much as I told her I would, or that I was so tardy in completing things I started at several points. (Hopefully, she has forgiven me these past trespasses…) And on top of it all, Mary Sue (and her husband Bob Rutemoeller) are just plain cool people. --Lee Poulsen Pasadena, California, USA - USDA Zone 10a Latitude 34°N, Altitude 1150 ft/350 m