Peyote??
Jadeboy48@aol.com (Sun, 07 Apr 2013 22:01:31 PDT)

David, I will believe this dish garden nonsense when you send me a plant.
If you have been growing cactus for 45 years, like I have you, should know
transport of the seeds is a felony. While they will think you are insane,
just call either dept of agriculture or the local FBI and ask them about
this. I will gladly pay you to do this. I really mean this! By the way you are
correct that most peyote have fibrous roots because they are cut off the
main tap root and raised as cuttings. Do you know what the " Street Value)
of on peyote button? There is a nice little reward you can get for turning
in drug growers. Where did you get you Degrees in Plant Taxonomy? When I was
younger I did teach Taxonomy for more years than I care to remember,
Subtle differences in a plants body structure does not make it a new species. I
tended to study Cytogenetics of my plant specimens, looking at genetic
material.
Well I have wasted enough time with this. I am not a nasty, caustic, bitter
person but get you facts straight,please. Russ H.

In a message dated 4/6/2013 10:44:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
idavide@sbcglobal.net writes:

I do not agree with you. Lophophora williamsii is a well known plant. It
is
similar to L. diffusa, but they can be distinguished. When I lived in
L.A.,
I was somewhat of an expert on cactus and grew many. Among my plants was
L.
williamsii, and of course it flowered for me. So far as tap root, only
plants
grown from seed will have that. Most plants are distributed from cuttings
which
have only adventitious roots. I assure you, that many of those souvenir
dish
collections sold in the Southwest contained Lophophora williamsii, though
I'm
sure that none of the Northeasterners who bought those souvenirs ever ate
the
plants. Regarding its illegality -- it is native to the U.S.; I'm not
aware of
the feds ever exterminating it. But you're right, it was overcollected,
which
contributed to its rarity.
I no longer live in L.A, and I no longer grow cactus. Dish gardens of
cactus
are not sold in the Bay Area.

David E.

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Dear david, I am not sure if you got my other message but I can assure
that
they (Growers) do NOT put peyote cactus plants in dish gardens!The peyote
cactus has a drug that acts like LSD on the brain. Unless you are a
member
of the Native American Church it is a felony to grow and possess the
plant.
I would have to look it up but it may have been as far back as !930 that
it was made illegal by the feds. Just type in Peyote cactus in a search
engine. You are in for quite a surprise. You must have confused this
cactus
with something else in your dish garden. As a grower of cactus for resale
I
can assure you no one in their right mind would plant this in a dish
garden
for resale. If you find a dish garden with what you are sure is peyote
can
you please send me a picture. I am a Botanical Taxonomist and would like
to
know what you are seeing. By the way peyote grown from seed has a fleshy,

carrot like taproot, smooth skin, white flowers and a globular head
growing
off the taproot. It almost never clumps in nature unless the top has been
cut off. Then the head can resprout, sometimes with multiple globular
heads. It is rare in nature because of over harvesting for drug use-Russ
H.

In a message dated 4/5/2013 6:40:26 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
idavide@sbcglobal.net writes:

A federal crime to grow peyote? Peyote is typically included in those
gift
cactus plantings sold throughout the southwest. I shouldn't doubt that
many
members of this group grow it, although I doubt any of us use it as a
narcotic.

David E.
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