Roger, calm down! Just what we need, another plant ID cynic. You think I don’t know what they are doing out there when the bees show up? The empty wine bottles, the carelessly discarded undergarments... It isn’t a pretty picture, I tell ya. My actual motivation is to get a little better at plant ID by learning from people who are much better at it. I’m not a purist about species vs. hybrids. I just want some idea what I’ve got out there. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/