Hi Steven, I agree with Alan's identification of the softer pink bell like flowers as an Amarcrinum which are infertile. The other larger open rose pink coloured Crinum looks very much like a C. moorei hybrid - but one which is possibly a stomatic hybrid? showing most of the features of a good C. moorei flower including improved robustness and fertility . According to Les Hannibal such polyploidal forms often arose in C. moorei hybrid crosses. C. brisbanicum is a Hexaploidal Australian species so hybrids may be difficult to make with this species - please inform us if you are successful in raising seeds from hybrid crosses using this species. Cheers Jim Lykos. Blue Mountains Sydney Zone 10