Thanks, Russell, not only for the response but especially for the link. I'll put that to good use. In looking at that site, I noticed that (as expected) many famous old tulips are not listed. I assume they are extinct. However, I did notice a couple of famous old names which I have not seen on a commercial list for decades (in one case) or ever (in another case). If this means that these varieties still exist, I would very much like to acquire them. The cultivars in question are 'Louis XIV' and 'Goldfinch'. Can anyone supply a lead? Rimmer, are you out there? Jim McKenney jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, 39.03871º North, 77.09829º West, USDA zone 7 My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/ <http://www.jimmckenney.com/> BLOG! http://mcwort.blogspot.com/ Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/ <http://www.pvcnargs.org/> Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/ <http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/> ________________________________ From: "Russell Stafford, Odyssey Bulbs" <odysseybulbs@earthlink.net> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [pbs] Tulipa 'Golden Nizza' Your assumption appears to be correct, Jim: <http://bit.ly/vxn1zj/>http://bit.ly/vxn1zj/ Russell Russell Stafford Odyssey Bulbs PO Box 382 South Lancaster, MA 01561 508-335-8106 http://www.odysseybulbs.com/