Thanks, Mark, for pointing us in the right direction with Antigoni’s crocuses. I looked at the pictures but paid no attention to the locality – and in this case, locality made all the difference. Crocus pulchellus grows north of C. boryi; are they anywhere sympatric? They must come very close in northwestern Greece. But I can’t help wondering if one were out hunting crocuses somewhere between the northern limits of the distribution of C. boryi and the southern limits of the distribution of C. pulchellus, and all one saw was what we saw in the photographs (i.e. no corm details), just how would one distinguish Crocus pulchellus and C. boryi? Those of you who know only the typically marketed form of C. pulchellus and C. boryi might think that is a stupid question. But I’ve grown a form of Crocus pulchellus (received as C. pulchellus ‘Albus’) which is very similar indeed to the crocuses shown in Antigoni’s photos. So I’m wondering, if I’m on a garden tour and I see one of these crocuses without a label, just how do I distinguish them without digging a corm? Antigoni, I enjoyed seeing that very nice (and big!) tortoise among your slides. Is it a wild tortoise or one you are keeping in the garden?Jim McKenney jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, 39.03871º North, 77.09829º West, USDA zone 7 My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/ <http://www.jimmckenney.com/> BLOG! http://mcwort.blogspot.com/ Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/ <http://www.pvcnargs.org/> Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/ <http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/> _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/