Ledebouria 'Gary Hammer'
dave s (Tue, 24 Jan 2012 09:29:25 PST)

I've often wondered if it's the same species as "sp. Barberton." Has anyone
actually grown BOTH? In pictures, it seems that while they are nearly the
same, "Gary Hammer" is larger/more robust.

-Dave

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Tim Chapman <tim@gingerwoodnursery.com>wrote:

Dylan,

Thanks for the info. Perhaps this is the site you were looking for:

http://biology.ukzn.ac.za/biology/index.php/…

There is L stenophylla pictured as well as a few other spp. The phoca
gallery settings are apparently screwed up so most images won't display
unless you click the download button.

Tim Chapman

On Jan 24, 2012, at 8:57 AM, Hannon <othonna@gmail.com> wrote:

Tim,

I am not certain of the status of this name but have been using it for

the

last few years since seeing it on a Google search for "Ledebouria". It

was

on a page from the Pietermaritzburg Botanic Garden but I cannot find it
now. It seems it is not a validly published name. I suppose it could be
rendered provisionally as L. sp. "stenophylla" but growers may readily
convert this to L. stenophylla. I'm glad it has the name 'Gary Hammer'

for

now at least. When this plant has a proper name, 'Gary Hammer' will have

to

be appended at the end, e.g., L. stenophylla 'Gary Hammer'. But since

this

indicates a special form or clone of L. stenophylla the horticultural
taxonomists will have to get after it.

Much work is still ongoing in South Africa with ledebourias and their kin
and it is quite possible that this entity will have its own name in the
near future. There seems to be no shortage of species in this alliance

that

are undescribed or in need of sorting.

I've grown this durable plant since 1995 when I got it from Gary, who

said

he collected it near Barberton. Whatever its ultimate identification,

which

will very likely change more than once in future, the collector and
locality can provide a means of knowing we are speaking of the same plant
with the same provenance. Until someone else collects it again near
Barberton ...

Cheers,

Dylan Hannon
Los Angeles

On 24 January 2012 00:20, Tim Chapman <tim@gingerwoodnursery.com> wrote:

I've been researching Ledebouria a good bit lately and noticed the plant
called 'Gary Hammer' is now being sold as L stenophylla. From what I

call

tell that is a non-existent name. Although there is/was a Scilla
stenophylla however it appears to be a synonym of S leptophylla which

would

make it one of Venter's species , L leptophylla. The Gary Hammer plant
looks nothing like L leptophylla. Perhaps there are plans to publish a

L

stenophylla?? Curious if anyone has more info on this name?

Tim Chapman
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