ephemeral On 01/25/12, steven hart wrote: For the sake of all PBS members. I do apologise for my original wording in my heading being slightly different from the actual question, although to me its still the same question & the obvious confusion it has caused for Richard & others,,, Obviously their is some confusion, because i did not realise their might be a different word for seeds that germinate automatically, rather than seeds that refuse to stay dormant. (THE POINT OF MY QUESTION WAS, I WANTED TO KNOW THE NAME FOR SEEDS THAT REFUSE TO STAY DORMANT) Many of you have answered me with Recalcitrant & i am comfortable that this was correct. Basically seeds that sprout in the mail, because i had a quarantine issue to deal with immediately & needed an answer, right then for the quarantine officer, who did not know some Amaryllis sprout in the mail & i wanted to save them with some technical terms, because he didn't believe me..... Those of you who are so confused, might benefit by reading the original question from the 24th January 2012 to find clarity. I hope i have now cleared this up for you all, to save waisted org space... I hate being the one that starts such confusion by accident. Im just here to learn & share : ) I'm so very sorry everyone !!! Steven Esk Queensland Australia