French Gardening history
michelle pierce (Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:57:41 PST)

Rick,
Great! The philadelphus hybrid sounds mouthwatering!
It's a shame that the horticultural trade does not include dates on their
labels, or a tiny amount of basic history relating to a plant. Surely that
might make us, the consumers, see them in another light sometimes. It is
lamentable that such collective knowledge can be lost by "laisser faire"
michelle

2012/1/25 clayton3120 clayton3120 <clayton3120@cablespeed.com>

Ah,
I just emailed Michelle about the subject as well. I do have some old
Lemoine Philadelphus hybrids that , for some odd reason never made it into
the trade. Pity, as they are top of the line, The hybrid 'Albatre' is
incredible! early, super fragrant bells, garden size, not a monster, like
some.
Will check more on the subject at Univ. of Washington , center for Urban
Hort Library on the subject.
You all have sparked my interest, and with a bit of determination and
sleuthing, I'm sure more of this material can be found.
Rick

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 2:57 AM, Mark BROWN <brown.mark@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

Dear Michelle,
the french work by fashion and not passion so everything goes to the side
and is swept away in the tide of the latest fad.
They are not big on heritage!
No garden restorations have ever been done here with french
money.Versailles and Giverny were all done through heavy american
funding.Even then the expertise is just not there as no one is

interested!

The plant collections network is a private joke! I don't mean that those
that hold them lack commitment! But we get zero support!!
I am trying to interest people here in rarer galanthus but is is such

hard

work!
And I just can't see them keeping cultivars going for over a hundred

years

as in Britain.
All the old french roses were refound abroad!
Hydrangea cultivars are the same story.
I have a great friend who works for the town of Nacy which was the
horticultural hub about a hundred years ago.
He is trying to find some of the old Primula sinensis cultivars of

Lemoine.

I think that he is dreaming!
Old Gladiolus cultivars are surely the same story.
I have old gardening magazines from the heyday of horticulture here and
they are fantastic!
kind regards,
Mark

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Hello
I naively made a new year's resolution to educate myself about french
gardening history. What a can of worms, since it seems very difficult

to

find anything out easily.!!!! Disheartening to feel that so much has

been

let go of, and lost - at least to the mildly interested amateur.
Does anyone know about past bulb growers or nurseries in france? I'd be
especially interested in the history of gladioli, but anything

concerning

french garden history would be interesting.
Thanks
Michelle Pierce

2012/1/23 Randall P. Linke

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Gastil wrote:

Not all my bulbs are special. In fact, most of my bulb garden is

legacy

bulbs.

I for one, and I am sure there are many here, love the old favorites.
They are special, to us. Thank you for sharing your pictures.

Randy

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