Rick, Great! The philadelphus hybrid sounds mouthwatering! It's a shame that the horticultural trade does not include dates on their labels, or a tiny amount of basic history relating to a plant. Surely that might make us, the consumers, see them in another light sometimes. It is lamentable that such collective knowledge can be lost by "laisser faire" michelle 2012/1/25 clayton3120 clayton3120 <clayton3120@cablespeed.com> > Ah, > I just emailed Michelle about the subject as well. I do have some old > Lemoine Philadelphus hybrids that , for some odd reason never made it into > the trade. Pity, as they are top of the line, The hybrid 'Albatre' is > incredible! early, super fragrant bells, garden size, not a monster, like > some. > Will check more on the subject at Univ. of Washington , center for Urban > Hort Library on the subject. > You all have sparked my interest, and with a bit of determination and > sleuthing, I'm sure more of this material can be found. > Rick > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 2:57 AM, Mark BROWN <brown.mark@wanadoo.fr> wrote: > > > Dear Michelle, > > the french work by fashion and not passion so everything goes to the side > > and is swept away in the tide of the latest fad. > > They are not big on heritage! > > No garden restorations have ever been done here with french > > money.Versailles and Giverny were all done through heavy american > > funding.Even then the expertise is just not there as no one is > interested! > > The plant collections network is a private joke! I don't mean that those > > that hold them lack commitment! But we get zero support!! > > I am trying to interest people here in rarer galanthus but is is such > hard > > work! > > And I just can't see them keeping cultivars going for over a hundred > years > > as in Britain. > > All the old french roses were refound abroad! > > Hydrangea cultivars are the same story. > > I have a great friend who works for the town of Nacy which was the > > horticultural hub about a hundred years ago. > > He is trying to find some of the old Primula sinensis cultivars of > Lemoine. > > I think that he is dreaming! > > Old Gladiolus cultivars are surely the same story. > > I have old gardening magazines from the heyday of horticulture here and > > they are fantastic! > > kind regards, > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > Message du 25/01/12 11:42 > > > De : "michelle pierce" > > > A : "Pacific Bulb Society" > > > Copie à : > > > Objet : Re: [pbs] What's blooming Jan 21, 2012 > > > > > > Hello > > > I naively made a new year's resolution to educate myself about french > > > gardening history. What a can of worms, since it seems very difficult > to > > > find anything out easily.!!!! Disheartening to feel that so much has > been > > > let go of, and lost - at least to the mildly interested amateur. > > > Does anyone know about past bulb growers or nurseries in france? I'd be > > > especially interested in the history of gladioli, but anything > concerning > > > french garden history would be interesting. > > > Thanks > > > Michelle Pierce > > > > > > 2012/1/23 Randall P. Linke > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Gastil wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not all my bulbs are special. In fact, most of my bulb garden is > > legacy > > > > > bulbs. > > > > > > > > > > > > I for one, and I am sure there are many here, love the old favorites. > > > > They are special, to us. Thank you for sharing your pictures. > > > > > > > > Randy > > > > > > > > -- > > > > * * > > > > A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial > > > > appearance of being right. - Thomas Paine --- > > > > * > > > > * > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > pbs mailing list > > > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pbs mailing list > > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pbs mailing list > > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >