Steven, "Afaik" is an acronym for "As far as I know" - Hans was not calling you a liar. Many list members post in English as non-native speakers (which we monolingual English speakers appreciate!). That sometimes means their phrasing can seem overly blunt to native speakers who are used-to more colloquial ways of expressing a point. Not every case of perceived rudeness on the list can be excused by mere language mistakes but I think that's the case here. As for your goats, I would be concerned primarily about liver damage that might take a while to fully affect them. Although I do not ever wish to duplicate your experience, the before and after pictures were certainly something to see! -|<ipp