Hi Adam, Hymenocallis occidentalis survives and blooms (most years) here in central Indiana. I have heard that it survives but does not bloom in a few gardens on the north side of Chicago. However, I have no hard data for any place north of Westfield, Indiana. So far as I know, wild Hymenocallis occidentalis is found in Indiana only in the southwestern-most tip of the State, in a few State Preserves. As I recall, the usual umbels on Hymenocallis occidentalis here have 4 to ca. 8 florets in them. So far this year, I do not have any scapes on H. occidentalis, neither in the ground nor in containers. I have one clump of Hymenocallis liriosme from the Gulf Coast, in Texas, that survives in a protected spot outside my greenhouse. It has not bloomed there so far. It pays to keep trying these plants for their hardiness. Regards, Jim Shields in Westfield, in central Indiana (USA) at 40° N latitude and 86° W longitude ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA