Hello all: One stalk of squamigera in bud and up about 30"-- here in the Chicago area. It has 6 buds, but I recall seeing more on other stalks historically. Does anyone have a maximum known number?.-or what's the largest number that anyone on this list has seen. Attempts by me to self these even with an assisting solution of 2-4D into the bottom of the flowers for two years running now, has produced balloon pods, and some apparent seed which rapidly dried out and revealed themselves as having no embryos . They are certainly self-sterile which is not a surprise--being triploid. (Bow in Jim Waddick's direction. for the information) I also have two Hymenocallis caroliniana (if they're true to name) that are in bud which surprised me because I got them in June with no leaves. I put them in the bottom of a 10 gal. paint drum with a little peat outdoors and some moisture so that they wouldn't dry out before I got around to planting them. Two days ago, I noticed that 2 of the 7 had floweor stalks on them. What is the usual bloom season for these? I thought that it was spring and that they didn't go dormant until late fall. (These had been dug from the wild , trimmed for sale and shipped with fleshy roots., which I think pushed them into a artificial dormancy. (I bought them on eBay.) ----- Original Message ----- From: <pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org> To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 4:25 PM Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 31, Issue 5 > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.ibiblio.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.ibiblio.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Pacific BX 98 (Dell Sherk) > 2. Lycoris squamigera in bloom here in Maryland (Jim McKenney) > 3. Re: Lycoris squamigera in bloom here in Maryland (J.E. Shields) > 4. Re: Lycoris squamigera in bloom here in Maryland (Lee Poulsen) > 5. Re: Lycoris squamigera in bloom here in Maryland (Jim McKenney) > 6. assorted (Arnold Trachtenberg) > 7. More Lycoris (James Waddick) > 8. Re: Alstroemeria query (Rodger Whitlock) > 9. Speciation. Was: Lycoris squamigera in bloom here in Maryland > (J.E. Shields) > 10. to:///John/ Ingram (Carol Jensen) > 11. Crocus corsicus (Dr Paul Chapman) > 12. Cryptostephanus haemanthoides (Alberto Grossi) > 13. Re: [IBSMEMBERS] Cryptostephanus haemanthoides > (johngrimshaw@tiscali.co.uk) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 07:38:29 -0400 > From: "Dell Sherk" <dells@voicenet.com> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Pacific BX 98 > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <20050806113825.C6B3C4C006@lists.ibiblio.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Dear Ronalee, > > Everything on that BX was claimed about mid-week. If I have anything left, > I > will send it. > > Sorry, > Dell > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 10:27:31 -0400 > From: "Jim McKenney" <jimmckenney@starpower.net> > Subject: [pbs] Lycoris squamigera in bloom here in Maryland > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <48ph3g$23gaja@smtp05.mrf.mail.rcn.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Lycoris squamigera is starting to bloom now here in zone 7 Maryland. > > I think I've asked this question in the past, but I'll try again: for > purposes of discussion, let's go with the hypothesis that the plant we > know > as Lycoris squamigera is of hybrid origin. > > Can anyone tell us what the correct name for this plant would be according > to the rules? I don't think we can use Lycoris squamigera, because it was > published as rank species. Does a combination exist for plants of the > parentage assumed for what we call Lycoris squamigera? > > Jim McKenney > Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where I've seen old > plantings > of this plant which produce hundreds, maybe thousands, of blooms yearly. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 09:48:16 -0500 > From: "J.E. Shields" <jshields@indy.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Lycoris squamigera in bloom here in Maryland > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050806093928.01f3bc80@pop.indy.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Hi Jim McK, and all, > > Get a copy of the Chinese paper (in English) on Lycoris species from Jim > Waddick, if Jim W. still has any left. Since the hybrid origin is not all > that clear (as far as I can recall -- wait for someone to do DNA) I > suspect > that the only properly published name is squamigera. > > In any case, it seems that new species arise by hybridization in > nature. Since L. squamigera is reproductively isolated from other Lycoris > species including, I presume, both its original parents, it is probably a > good species anyway. Hybrid origin per se would not disqualify it; > reticulate evolution in action. I think there are parthenogenic > (apomictic) species of Zephyranthes (rain lilies) that are considered good > species botanically. > > I don't have bloom size squamigera planted here, but I have one scape each > showing on LL. sprengeri, chinensis, and longituba. More should be > popping > up any day now. > > Regards, > Jim Shields > in central Indiana (USA) > > At 10:27 AM 8/6/2005 -0400, Jim McK. wrote: >>Lycoris squamigera is starting to bloom now here in zone 7 Maryland. >>........ >> >>Can anyone tell us what the correct name for this plant would be according >>to the rules? I don't think we can use Lycoris squamigera, because it was >>published as rank species. Does a combination exist for plants of the >>parentage assumed for what we call Lycoris squamigera? >> >>Jim McKenney > > ************************************************* > Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. > P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ > Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA > Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 09:33:20 -0700 > From: Lee Poulsen <wpoulsen@pacbell.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Lycoris squamigera in bloom here in Maryland > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <3FD2CE5E-45CE-431C-AA68-B33AD498863A@pacbell.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > I have L. sprengeri and L. radiata pumila ? ?haywardii both in bloom > now. The second one looks somewhat similar to the first one except > that the petals are somewhat thinner, the pink is redder and there is > only a faint hint of blue on the tips of the petals. Jim W., could it > be another L. sprengeri that was mislabelled? > > --Lee Poulsen > Pasadena, California, USA, USDA Zone 10a > > > On Aug 6, 2005, at 7:48 AM, J.E. Shields wrote: > >> I don't have bloom size squamigera planted here, but I have one >> scape each >> showing on LL. sprengeri, chinensis, and longituba. More should be >> popping >> up any day now. >> >> At 10:27 AM 8/6/2005 -0400, Jim McK. wrote: >> >>> Lycoris squamigera is starting to bloom now here in zone 7 Maryland. >>> ........ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 12:36:51 -0400 > From: "Jim McKenney" <jimmckenney@starpower.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Lycoris squamigera in bloom here in Maryland > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <47qfdc$208jn7@smtp04.mrf.mail.rcn.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Jim Shields wrote: "Since L. squamigera is reproductively isolated from > other Lycoris species including, I presume, both its original parents..." > > > I'm just about sure you are right in saying that Lycoris squamigera is > reproductively isolated from other Lycoris; but the reason it is > reproductively isolated is that it does not reproduce sexually. Or > are there such things as sexually reproducing Lycoris squamigera? > > I've always assumed it to be a clone. > > I don't have a problem with species which arise via hybridization, as long > as they form sexually reproducing units. To me, that's just a > nomenclatural > problem: the parental species in those cases are really themselves > conspecific, and the proof of that is the ease with which the purported > "hybrid" species forms a sexually reproducing unit. > > This happens because "bad" botanists have given species rank names to > populations which, although they are different in appearance, are really > no > more different than breeds of domesticated animals such as dogs. > > Also, to my way of thinking, it makes no sense to call an entity which > does > not reproduce sexually a species. If there is not a sexually reproducing > entity which corresponds to what we know as Lycoris squamigera, then it's > not a species. > > Jim McKenney > Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where I'm happy to have my > Lycoris reproduce any way at all. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] > On Behalf Of J.E. Shields > Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 10:48 AM > To: Pacific Bulb Society > Subject: Re: [pbs] Lycoris squamigera in bloom here in Maryland > > Hi Jim McK, and all, > > Get a copy of the Chinese paper (in English) on Lycoris species from Jim > Waddick, if Jim W. still has any left. Since the hybrid origin is not all > that clear (as far as I can recall -- wait for someone to do DNA) I > suspect > that the only properly published name is squamigera. > > In any case, it seems that new species arise by hybridization in > nature. Since L. squamigera is reproductively isolated from other Lycoris > species including, I presume, both its original parents, it is probably a > good species anyway. Hybrid origin per se would not disqualify it; > reticulate evolution in action. I think there are parthenogenic > (apomictic) species of Zephyranthes (rain lilies) that are considered good > species botanically. > > I don't have bloom size squamigera planted here, but I have one scape each > showing on LL. sprengeri, chinensis, and longituba. More should be > popping > up any day now. > > Regards, > Jim Shields > in central Indiana (USA) > > At 10:27 AM 8/6/2005 -0400, Jim McK. wrote: >>Lycoris squamigera is starting to bloom now here in zone 7 Maryland. >>........ >> >>Can anyone tell us what the correct name for this plant would be according >>to the rules? I don't think we can use Lycoris squamigera, because it was >>published as rank species. Does a combination exist for plants of the >>parentage assumed for what we call Lycoris squamigera? >> >>Jim McKenney > > ************************************************* > Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. > P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ > Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA > Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 12:50:55 -0400 > From: Arnold Trachtenberg <arnold@nj.rr.com> > Subject: [pbs] assorted > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Message-ID: <42F4EA6F.4030209@nj.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Images taken this morning. > > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… > <http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/…> > > <http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/…> > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… > > > Arnold > New Jersey > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 11:17:55 -0500 > From: James Waddick <jwaddick@kc.rr.com> > Subject: [pbs] More Lycoris > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <p06020407bf1a908867c9@[192.168.1.101]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > Dear All; > We continue too hot and too dry. The only Lycoris in bloom > are those that get some extra moisture. I assume more will pop up > after a decent rainfall. Typical. > > A clump of good pure white L. longituba* amazed me when I > took a stick to it- yardstick. The center of the inflorescence was an > easy 36 inches tall and the tallest point another 5-6 inches higher. > > So far a few sprengeri and a few chinensis in bloom too. Lots > of squamigera, b ut only in some places. > One stalk on an odd sprengeri x chinensis hybrid looks sort > of like the former but orange with a hint of pink. > > A larger clump of an old sprengeri x aurea clump is palest > yellow with a size and form closer to sprengeri. > > So many of these are so easy and reliable in this awful > climate and current weather pattern that it seems urgent to get these > propagated and into wider culture. I know the demand is there, if > only the supply were there too. > > Steaming and dreaming in Kansas City. Jim W. > > * I mention a "good pure white" because, although this is the 'color' > of L. longituba, a number of 1st, 2nd and ...on generation hybrids > with L. chinensis seem to exist that I see a range from pure white to > those with yellow throats to pale yellow to medium yellow. Some have > the form of L. longituba with nearly oval smooth petals and some > approach L. chinensis with narrower ruffled spidery blooms in various > colors. A mixed planting of these hybrids has just begun to bloom > with around 6 or 7 variants. I am sure the rest are waiting for the > rainfall to arrive. > -- > Dr. James W. Waddick > 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. > Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 > USA > Ph. 816-746-1949 > Zone 5 Record low -23F > Summer 100F + > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 10:15:03 -0700 > From: "Rodger Whitlock" <totototo@pacificcoast.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Alstroemeria query > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Message-ID: <E1E1S3F-000ITF-7f@mx7.uniserve.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On 3 Aug 05 at 10:12, S. R. Gilbert wrote: > >> I am a novice Alstroemeria grower. Having successfully >> germinated several dozen Ligtu hybrids from seed some >> months ago, I am now witnessing a withering and dying >> back of all of my seedlings. A couple of inches of >> height, with a remarkably large root, they are now, I >> reckon, following the seasonal decline that my fully >> mature Alstroemerias (bought in pots) are going >> through. >> >> The young plants are mostly in three-inch pots. How >> should I handle the next phase of their existence? >> Pull up roots? Transplant now into my San Francisco >> foggy garden? Leave pots alone? > > I would plant them out now. If, that is, you have sufficient > space for them in your garden, remembering that each seedling > will spread a ways in every direction if happy. > > If you want to vet them for color before planting out, so you > can rogue out the dull, the uninteresting, the boring, and the > so-so ones, then repot the seedlings into quite large pots: 8" > wide x deep at a minimum, if possible even bigger. Deep is more > important that wide for a deeply burrowing Alstroemeria. Make > sure the pots don't offer an escape route via the drainholes > into the soil they sit on -- alstroemeria loves to get its > tubers into good deep soil. > > Also, if possible, shade the pots to prevent the sun shining > on their sides and overheating the soil. > > I can't quote specific research, but my impression is that > bulbs adjust their depth in the soil according to temperature. > Overheated soil in a pot will cause them to burrow more deeply > in pursuit of a cooler temperature. Naturally, when entrapped > in a pot were *all* the soil is overly warm, the bulb will bump > the bottom and suffer frustration and possible mental problems > in later life, not a Good Thing. (As usual, I jest -- but just > a little.) > > In the Ligtu hybrids, you have an excellent cutflower, btw. > They last for weeks in water. If you have the space, grow them > all: not one will be ugly. Your neighbors, and even some local > florists, may be thrilled to see you turn up with masses of > them. > > > -- > Rodger Whitlock > Victoria, British Columbia, Canada > Maritime Zone 8, a cool Mediterranean climate > > on beautiful Vancouver Island > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 12:15:25 -0500 > From: "J.E. Shields" <jshields@indy.net> > Subject: [pbs] Speciation. Was: Lycoris squamigera in bloom here in > Maryland > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20050806115302.01f4f6e0@pop.indy.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > Hi Jim McK., > > I'm not a taxonomist, but I do read a bit in the field > occasionally. Sexual reproduction has never to my knowledge been one of > the criteria for a species. The aforementioned apomictic rain lilies are > not reproducing sexually, albeit they may use what appear to be > seeds. Reproductive isolation is the primary factor, even when it is > achieved by physical isolation -- across a mountain range, for > instance. Hybridization and reproductive isolation are both mechanisms > for > speciation. Failure of sexual reproduction with other species is just > one > way to make a species, but it should be sufficient. > > If you want a hairy problem in "what is a species?" look at the > bacteria. They appear to occasionally exchange DNA quite promiscuously > with clearly unrelated bacteria. Otherwise they mainly reproduce > clonaly. I expect to see hierarchical taxonomic classifications of > bacteria replaced by phylogenetic trees based solely on DNA, with the > "species" being labelled with serial numbers instead of names. Indeed, > this seems a prime example of where the evolutionary unit is not the > species nor even the individual, but is the gene, a la Richard Dawkins' > books. > > Of course, with each generation of clonal reproduction, mutations can > occur, and these accumulate and are passed on from mother to daughters. > So > there is genetic drift possible even in apomictic or sexually sterile > organisms. > > Nature is truly marvelous to behold! There is seemingly no end to the > variations in ways to change organisms -- many don't work, of course. The > most amazing thing is that so many of them do occasionally work! They are > working all the time. The Hymenocallis are in a dynamic state, especially > the species in the southeastern USA. Their DNA makes them look almost > like > a single species, I've heard. Twenty thousand years ago, there probably > was nothing in the present USA that could be called a Hymenocallis. They > returned out of Mexico and the Caribbean as the northern glaciers > retreated, and have been forming new species since then. > > Regards, > Jim Shields > > At 12:36 PM 8/6/2005 -0400, you wrote: >>Jim Shields wrote: "Since L. squamigera is reproductively isolated from >>other Lycoris species including, I presume, both its original parents..." >> >> >>I'm just about sure you are right in saying that Lycoris squamigera is >>reproductively isolated from other Lycoris; but the reason it is >>reproductively isolated is that it does not reproduce sexually. Or >>are there such things as sexually reproducing Lycoris squamigera? >> >>I've always assumed it to be a clone. >> >>I don't have a problem with species which arise via hybridization, as long >>as they form sexually reproducing units. To me, that's just a >>nomenclatural >>problem: the parental species in those cases are really themselves >>conspecific, and the proof of that is the ease with which the purported >>"hybrid" species forms a sexually reproducing unit. >> >>This happens because "bad" botanists have given species rank names to >>populations which, although they are different in appearance, are really >>no >>more different than breeds of domesticated animals such as dogs. >> >>Also, to my way of thinking, it makes no sense to call an entity which >>does >>not reproduce sexually a species. If there is not a sexually reproducing >>entity which corresponds to what we know as Lycoris squamigera, then it's >>not a species. >> >>Jim McKenney >>Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7, where I'm happy to have my >>Lycoris reproduce any way at all. >> >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] >>On Behalf Of J.E. Shields >>Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 10:48 AM >>To: Pacific Bulb Society >>Subject: Re: [pbs] Lycoris squamigera in bloom here in Maryland >> >>Hi Jim McK, and all, >> >>Get a copy of the Chinese paper (in English) on Lycoris species from Jim >>Waddick, if Jim W. still has any left. Since the hybrid origin is not all >>that clear (as far as I can recall -- wait for someone to do DNA) I >>suspect >>that the only properly published name is squamigera. >> >>In any case, it seems that new species arise by hybridization in >>nature. Since L. squamigera is reproductively isolated from other Lycoris >>species including, I presume, both its original parents, it is probably a >>good species anyway. Hybrid origin per se would not disqualify it; >>reticulate evolution in action. I think there are parthenogenic >>(apomictic) species of Zephyranthes (rain lilies) that are considered good >>species botanically. >> >>I don't have bloom size squamigera planted here, but I have one scape each >>showing on LL. sprengeri, chinensis, and longituba. More should be >>popping >>up any day now. >> >>Regards, >>Jim Shields >>in central Indiana (USA) >> >>At 10:27 AM 8/6/2005 -0400, Jim McK. wrote: >> >Lycoris squamigera is starting to bloom now here in zone 7 Maryland. >> >........ >> > >> >Can anyone tell us what the correct name for this plant would be >> >according >> >to the rules? I don't think we can use Lycoris squamigera, because it >> >was >> >published as rank species. Does a combination exist for plants of the >> >parentage assumed for what we call Lycoris squamigera? >> > >> >Jim McKenney >> >>************************************************* >>Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. >>P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ >>Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA >>Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>pbs mailing list >>pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >>http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >>_______________________________________________ >>pbs mailing list >>pbs@lists.ibiblio.org >>http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > ************************************************* > Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. > P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ > Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA > Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2005 21:55:54 +0200 > From: Carol Jensen <jorna@mobilixnet.dk> > Subject: [pbs] to:///John/ Ingram > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.0.20050806215426.01e48ad0@mail.mobilixnet.dk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Looking at the wiki page of Lycoris, I noticed that the white pearl > Lycoris looks a lot like my mystery bulb, which was identified as an > ismene by its false sheathed leaves. > > Would your pink pearl and white pearl lycoris happen to have a false > sheath? > > Carol > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 21:28:44 +0100 > From: "Dr Paul Chapman" <cyrtanthus@blueyonder.co.uk> > Subject: [pbs] Crocus corsicus > To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <001601c59b8e$bc355400$499130d5@cyrtanthus> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Having just returned from 2 weeks vacation in the Mediterranean (Corfu), I > have just started repotting my summer dormant Mediterranean bulbs, which I > do every other year. > > Most pots have produced no surprises; a few bulbs have disappeared with no > explanation, whilst others have grown to flowering size since the last > repotting in 2003. > > However, Crocus corsicus seems to have behaved differently to everything > else that I have yet repotted (and I am doing things more or less > alphabetically). My label says that in 2003 I repotted 24 corms. Today > there were 54 - but none were large, certainly not what I would consider > to > be flowering size, and many were tiny, no bigger than Fritillaria "rice". > > Does Crocus corsicus need special treatment to achieve flowering size > bulbs? > It currently gets my "standard" treatment for Mediterranean bulbs - in an > unheated greenhouse all year, with windows always open. Absolute minimum > temperature -5oC (23oF), but very rarely below -2oC (28oF) for more than a > few hours at a time. Watered from the beginning of September to mid-May, > then bone dry until September. > > I would appreciate any advice anyone can give. > > Paul > > Dr Paul Chapman, Wallington, Surrey, UK > South London commuter belt suburbia - zone 9a, where Arisaemas are still > in > flower outside, but the Cyrtanthus hybrids have started flowering in the > greenhouse. > mailto:cyrtanthus@blueyonder.co.uk > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 22:53:32 +0200 > From: "Alberto Grossi" <crinum@libero.it> > Subject: [pbs] Cryptostephanus haemanthoides > To: "PBS" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <000801c59b92$12e3b2d0$64fea8c0@6b6625a8caff485> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi all, > I have a rhizome of C. haemanthoides but after two years it has no set any > root. Anyone know what to do? > Thank you > Alberto > Italy > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 22:11:46 +0100 > From: <johngrimshaw@tiscali.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [pbs] [IBSMEMBERS] Cryptostephanus haemanthoides > To: <IBSMEMBERS@yahoogroups.com> > Cc: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Message-ID: <00c601c59b96$87f6df30$05a0403e@John> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > In my experience the rhizome of Cryptostephanus haemanthoides is merely an > attachment point for the shoot and the roots: the roots are the primary > storage organ. I cannot think that the prognosis for a rootless rhizome is > very good, unless it is able to make a shoot and new root growth to enable > it slowly to build up strength. > > John Grimshaw > > > Dr John M. Grimshaw > Garden Manager, Colesbourne Gardens > > Sycamore Cottage > Colesbourne > Nr Cheltenham > Gloucestershire GL53 9NP > > Tel. 01242 870567 > Mobile 07 919 840 063 > Fax (Estate Office) 01242 870541 > > Website: http://www.colesbournegardens.org.uk/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 31, Issue 5 > **********************************
