Hi all, I can back up Mark's comments regarding metal labels. I often cut my hands weeding around them. Still I continue to use them because they last longer in the garden. Plastic labels are popped always out of the ground in winter by the freezing and thawing; they then are blown around the garden by the winter winds. I like the vinyl labels myself for pots or where I need dozens of labels, as in potting up seedlings. I usually get them in boxes of 1000 from Charley's Greenhouse, a mailorder catalog place in the Pacific Northwest at: http://www.charleysgreenhouse.com/ Charley's prices are similar to those of Horticultural Printers, but you can buy in bundles of 100 labels (ca. $3.50 to $4.00 per 100). Very soft lead pencil is by far the most permanent marker I've found in years of trying. The other "permanent" markers just are not up to several years of rain and sun outdoors. I expect my labels to last at least 10 years! I'm experimenting with the Brother 2600 label printer, which can use laminated tapes (types "TZ") in various widths, mainly 1" or 1/2", with white or clear backgrounds. It is pretty good for making a half dozen to a couple dozen labels of the exact same thing. Beyond a dozen or two, there is no easy way to make labels. I'm using lots of these outdoors now; I'll let you know in about 5 years how well they are holding up. Regards, Jim Shields in central Indiana (USA) ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA