Hippeastrum equestere?

There are most certainly ploidy races in H. punicuem - triploids,
teratploids and diploids have al been reported - possibly even higher levels
that tetraploid. This could have been due to selection, as the species has
been used medicinally by Amerind peoples, and probaly owes some degree of
its broad distribution to human hands.

Alan
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin D. Preuss" <hyline@tampabay.rr.com>
To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [pbs] Hippeastrum equestere?

H. puniceum has yellow pollen (anthers).
H. striatum has white pollen.

These more resemble H. striatum, and they are found throughout Florida as
well. I had always thought them to be H. puniceum. But aftyer seeing h.
piuniceum in the wild and growing then from ecuador, Peru and Brazil, H.
puniceum from SA is larger. The ones sent to me from the West Indes are
smaller. they grow in Puerto rico I know and those are smaller.

Perhaps H. puniceum has a ploidy thing going on. I have a double form of

puniceum in bloom now.
Perhpas puniceum is still a wastebasket group (that is a place where
unidentified orange flowered taxa are thrown into).

I have bred hybrids of puniceum x blossfeldiae and they are lovely orange
flowers w/ excellent form, but not large, 4/stalk. These would really

cause

a mess (taxonomically) if I let them escape and never disclosed the

parental

info.
Folks would go crazy trying to figure out the parentage.

Kevin Preuss

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Poulsen" <wpoulsen@pacbell.net>
To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 2:17 AM
Subject: Re: [pbs] Hippeastrum equestere?

Cynthia, look at the photo I uploaded under the species name of H.
puniceum. <http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/…> I
was told at some point in the past that H. equestre is just a synonym
for H. puniceum. My photo didn't turn out that well, but your photo
looks a lot like the flowers on my plants. It's the most orange-y Hipp.
I've ever seen. I got my bulbs in Maui, Hawaii.

--Lee Poulsen
Pasadena area, California, USDA Zone 9-10

On Mar 28, 2004, at 6:11 PM, Cynthia Mueller wrote:

More on the "orange" Hippeastrum. Today I was looking at a very
similar
bloom on a Hipp. equestere from Monticello, grown by Dr. William C.
Welch, College Station, Tx. They are almost identical in size, color,
etc. but the anthers on the just-opened Monticello flowers are very
large and colored a dusty mauve. Are one or both of these equestere?
Do they have variants? Please help - Kevin or Alan - your thoughts?

http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/
Hippeastrum_Orange_Mystery_cwm.jpg

Cynthia W. Mueller

c-mueller@tamu.edu 03/27/04 08:26PM >>>

My seed strain of "orange Hippeastrum" has begun to bloom. The parent
plant was found in the woods near Sealy (Central Texas), planted out
from a grandmother's garden. There are only two blooms per stalk,
leaves are small and rather low. This is the plant that has a
cream-colored "mask" at the throat. So far (several) seem true to
seed,
altho I do have other strains at work in the garden. More pics to
follow of them.
Who could tell me what this is?

http://ibiblio.pbs/pbswiki/files/…

Cynthia W. Mueller
College Station, TX
Zone 8b-9
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