In a message dated 3/3/2004 12:47:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, leo1010@attglobal.net writes: OK, anybody have experience with sprouting Velloziaceae I had no problem germinating Xerophyta viscosa. They were sown in my standard mix in mid winter and germinated in the GH when the temps rose above 45F. Tried some plants outside in the garden but they did not survive the winter (checked them yesterday). Mark Mazer Intarsia Ltd. Gaylordsville, Connecticut 06755-0142 USA http://www.therapyshapes.com/ USDA Zone 5 Giant Schnauzer Rescue