Hi all, I'm trying to come up with a list of South African plants -- bulbs, succulents, shrubs, small trees -- that are hardy outdoors in central Indiana (USDA cold zone 5). I have had no luck with Dierama -- they die every time I try to transplant or repot them. Without fail! Some African Gladiolus have survived for a time, like GG. oppositiflorus salmoneus (still going strong), G. dalenii (only one winter), G. x-gandavensis. How about G. saundersii? The Crinum as mentioned recently. Crocosmia as discussed several times. A few Kniphofia have survived for a time in very protected spots. One plant of K. northiae has survived several years in the raised bed rock garden, and even blooms occasionally. Of course, what I really would like to see is a big tree-sized Aloe martholii or A. ferox here! They were blooming while we were in South Africa in May and June. Are there any large, succulent Euphorbia that are winter-hardy? Can anyone give me anything concrete? Regards, Jim Shields in central Indiana ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA