i'm a bit late in replying, but... re: H. coronarium this plant is a tough one. travelling in brazil, i saw how it had become naturalized in areas where the vegetation has been disturbed and it's growing everywhere. it's a very invasive plant in the southeast, at the edge of the dwindling forests. visiting Iguaçu Falls, there was even a clump growing in an isolated island in the mist by itself, no other vegetation nearby. i wonder if they couldn't just cut them for the florist trade, but i assume the flowers don't last long and therefore unsuitable for that. re: Gethyllis ever since i saw the first pics of G. grandiflorus, i've been fascinated by this genus. i don't grow any but maybe in the future. now, is it true that they are commonly referred to as "gorilla armpit bulb?" has anyone else heard that? ===== tsuh yang __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail/