Don't write off eBay sales, there are many great plants listed on there. Crinums, canna, clivia, Hippeastrum, etc. Most of the larger resellers really give you a bargain. I'm clearing out my crinums at the moment and have them listed on there as well. I have also gottem some great heirloom plants from home gardeners, Hippeastrum x Johnsonii in great quantity. ===== John Ingram in L.A., CA. http://www.floralarchitecture.com/ check it out jjingram@adelphia.net Floralartistry2000@yahoo.com