I'll try to remember to take and post some photos when these things bloom. On a related topic: I have a stand of Lilium superbum from stock reportedly collected in the wild in New Jersey. The largest is now pushing seven feet, and may get taller still. When the flowers open, they're immense, and there are huge numbers on each stalk (I'll try to remember to get some photos of these, too, when they open - alomg with a bud count). The L. superbum of my childhood, from the Rhode Island shore, is a much more modest creature, though still lovely. Has anyone blocked out, in a methodical way, the regional variations of this species - and are regional variations meaningful, or is it just variation from one local population to another? And will they all get viruses from my double tiger lilies, and die? sigh. Ellen Hornig Seneca Hill Perennials Oswego NY USA Zone 5 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim McKenney" <jimmckenney@starpower.net> To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 10:02 PM Subject: RE: double-flowered tiger lily; was: Re: [pbs] Bulb Odds and ends > At 07:19 AM 7/12/2004 -0400, Ellen Hornig wrote: > > >The plants were robust, the flowers > >well-formed (sort of a hose-in-hose effect)... > >I've put in a whole stand in front > >of the house. > > It sounds as if Ellen has the double-flowered tiger lily I'm looking for. > > The tiger lily picture is a real muddle. Botanists seem to divide into > camps (surprise!) with respect to them: older botanists especially > considered them to be a true species, and in fact during the middle of the > last century various people claimed to have discovered wild diploid > populations of tiger lilies. > > Modern botanists are more likely to regard them as hybrids. I say "them", > because it has long been recognized that more than one clone of triploid > tiger lily exists. Curiously, there seems to be no unanimity with respect > to the purported parents; Lilium leichtlinii is generally cited as one part > of the pair. > > It's this "more than one clone" part that intrigues me. And with respect to > the double tiger lilies, are they all derived from the same triploid clone? > Or are there several double-flowered tiger lilies of different origin? > Ellen's plants sound much better than the ones I had, and maybe they had a > different origin. > > Double flowered tiger lilies are nothing new: one was awarded an FCC in 1870! > > Jim McKenney > jimmckenney@starpower.net > Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7 where my tiger lilies set > abundant seed in the years when I have tetraploid pollen for them. > > > > > > At 07:19 AM 7/12/2004 -0400, you wrote: > >I'm quite fond of my double-flowered tiger lilies. I first saw these in a > >large stand by the road, in the little summer community of Panther Lake, > >NY. In a large grouping, they're superb; you definitely do a double take > >when you see them (no pun intended). The plants were robust, the flowers > >well-formed (sort of a hose-in-hose effect), and needless to say, I came > >home with a pocketful of bulbils (the homeowner was all set to get a shovel > >and dig me some, but I assured him that was completely unnecessary). Now > >that I have a large supply to work with, I've put in a whole stand in front > >of the house. I do sell them, too, if anyone's interested (too large to > >ship now, of course). > > > >Ellen Hornig > >Seneca Hill Perennials > >Oswego NY USA > >Zone 5 > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >mail2web - Check your email from the web at > >http://mail2web.com/ . > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >pbs mailing list > >pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > >http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php >