Joe, When I heard Jim Shields mention several years ago that they don't like to be disturbed, I left them in the seedling pots. I haven't read the other posts on this subject lately and I would like to know what Diana has to say. My seedlings are still in the same 4" clay pot they were sowed in 4 years ago. Also, they are still only 3" tall. Maybe I will try moving them up. ===== John Ingram in L.A., CA. http://www.floralarchitecture.com/ check it out jjingram@adelphia.net Floralartistry2000@yahoo.com