Dear Jim et al; I have had so little 'luck' with hardy South African plants I was getting an inferiority complex. Plants grown from seed exchanges, plants given to me from growers in various sites and almost every other source all lingered and failed with VERY few exceptions, So I am glad to see this expose'. I have tried a variety of genera and wish I cold find a reliable Dierama having seen them at Strybing and found them incredible. So from your list: G. gandavensis /dalenii does fine. Haven't tried others. Crocosmia and related -more duds although I had a Chasmanthe last one or 2 winters in a really hot dry spot. Of course Crinum bulbispermum and I recently reported on a fluke Eucomis bicolor (but too short to say for sure). Most seem a total bust. Am I missing something? Best Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 E-fax 419-781-8594 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +