Hi Arnold, same experiences for me with the Arum italicums, but usually the cooked-spinach-looking leaves spring back up. This spring they're joining concinatum, creticum, maculatum, dioscoroides, cyrenacium, and, despite being protected in a cold frame, purpureospathum, in putting up all new leaves. A few of the italicum autumn leaves did survive. Arum nigrum waits wisely until spring and Dracunculus vulgaris is only starting now, as opposed to last year in January. Where in New Jersey are you? Bonaventure Magrys Cliffwood Beach, NJ Arnold <Arnold@nj.rr.com> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent by: cc: pbs-bounces@lists. Subject: Re: [pbs] Coping with Cold (Bulbs for frozen soil)--TOW ibiblio.org 03/31/2003 08:35 PM Please respond to Pacific Bulb Society Judy: My experiences are quite similar. This year the Arum italicum ssp. Albispathum was almost completely defoliated by the frigid cold and is sending up new leaves at the moment. Same for the Muscari macrocarpum and muscarimi the foliage gets very withered but bounces back just fine.. The foliage of crocus sativus and other fall blooming crocus looks almost unscathed. Colchicum kesselringii has flowers at the moment along with Crocus vernus ssp. vernus. Some small creature has eaten petals of many other crocus, leaving them strewn about the ground. Arnold New Jersey _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php