names of people and plants
Brian Whyer (Fri, 11 Apr 2003 02:16:31 PDT)

I try to pronounce botanical latin with all vowels short and equal,
except for a few that sound wrong, or rude, in English. i.e. Pinus and
Picea are better with a long i, and i is also sometimes pronounced as an
e, so you have another choice. I cannot see a good reason for trying to
echo the name of the commemorated person, as for some oriental, eastern
European or Asian names I have no idea how they might be pronounced, and
in my limited worldly travels I found names of artists or composers I
thought I knew well, are even spelled differently in some countries. I
am sure people who do not have English as a first language, or at all,
would have quite a different viewpoint to me. I don't recall being
corrected in the Cape when I said clivia with 2 short i's, but I was
when I said disa with i as an e. A local river on the Cape is the Disa
with a long i.

"Mingies" is (I think) pronounced as in Ming dynasty, with a Scottish
accent of course.

Another problem is when the common and latin name are the same, e.g.
aubrieta, 3 syllables in common usage, 4 in botanical latin.

But who I am to comment with an uncommon name like mine, that people
hesitate over.

Brian Whyer, (as in wire) zone 8'ish, Buckinghamshire, UK

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Subject: [pbs] Re: names of people and plants

I like to honour the person whose name is commemorated by pronouncing
a plant name like the person's name. So, since Clivia was named for
Clive, I use a long i.

People think I'm a bit strange when I talk about MacAdamia nuts
instead of Maca dame ia nuts.

You can't always tell about names, though. Some of our common
Pacific Coast plants were named for Menzies, but apparently in
Scotland, where he came from, his name is pronounced something like
'Mingies', and I'm not sure whether that should be a hard or soft g.
I still pronounce the z.

--
Diane Whitehead Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
maritime zone 8
cool mediterranean climate (dry summer, rainy winter - 68 cm annually)
sandy soil
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