My Veltheimia in Pasadena California also go completly dormant in summer Those in the ground have now emerged, except for a few on the very hot sunny hillside Since I do not always catch every seed they will seed themselves too but the seedlings take along time to emerge- maybe January Patty Colville -----Original Message----- From: Leo A. Martin <leo@possi.org> To: pbs <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Sun, Nov 17, 2013 4:32 pm Subject: Re: [pbs] Veltheimia Ina replied to Peter regarding Veltheimea: > Mine are the bracteata ones Peter. > Hence my surprise how well it grows > where it sowed itself in full sun. Ina, recall the hottest summers in NZ and England might be considered goose-down parka weather in Phoenix. Both species here remain in leaf and in growth longer than almost any other "winter" bulb. Unlike in southern California, both go completely dormant in the summer. Leo Martin Phoenix Arizona USA