This raises not only the question of how good are some of the "accepted" names but -- especially if they are really documented -- of just what is a species in rainlilies? So many of the rainlilies seem to be mainly apomictic that the sexual concept of a species -- an interbreeding population -- becomes untenable. Microbiologists and mathematicians are questioning the relevance and indeed even the applicability of the species concept to asexually reproducing microorganisms. Is every clone (in rainlilies, every apomictic maternal line) a distinct biological entitity? Are there as many "species" of rainlilies as there are apomicticly reproducing individuals? Peter Grant wrote a book (30 years ago?) about plant speciation in which he used rainlilies and their apomictic maternal lines as examples of a challenge to the very concept. The problem does not appear to have gotten any simpler in the intervening years. Jim Shields At 12:42 AM 11/22/2013 +0000, Alberto wrote: >Worse, for a good number there is no evidence of an herbarium voucher of >them even existing. ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Lat. 40° 02.8' N, Long. 086° 06.6' W