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Ceridwen Lloyd (Fri, 01 Nov 2013 23:18:22 PDT)

Sorry to all, that ramble was just meant to go to Jim McKenny

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On 2 Nov 2013, at 2:30 pm, "Randall P. Linke" <randysgarden@gmail.com> wrote:

Here in the US at least, if not internationally, we have the on-line
"Darwin Awards" for those stupid enough to be done in by nature or other
acts of their own stupidity.

On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Ceridwen Lloyd <ceridwen@internode.on.net>wrote:

Already wrote too much that wasn't bulb-related! So I won't reply to the
list at large.
But yes, red-bellies in particular are bad for dogs, dead in 20 minutes
and with antivenene about $1100 a shot at the vet and often more than one
needed, you'd better really love your pooch. Witless terrier was growling
at me from under the roses a couple of Christmases back and I thought "oh,
she's got a rat" but when I hauled her out I thought "oh she's killed a
snake" then realised "oh she hasn't yet quite killed a snake". So my
christmas present of a ladies 410 shotgun was used to despatch the mortally
wounded but still very dangerous creature, only a two-footer but when we
lived closer to a national park we had a resident as thick as my forearm.
The browns are deadly from day one and they love to lay eggs in mulch, so
late summer is a time to avoid poking around in it. Normally you leave them
alone (it is illegal to kill one actually) and there are a few
snake-catching businesses who charge more for a home visit than I'm allowed
to! (Though I guess Australian medical cos
ts are lower than the US, different system and all that)
No human deaths for a long time - and the last few have involved alcohol
so I guess that's just evolution in action.
But they do give me the heebie-jeebies a bit - it's not just sun
protection that always has me in long pants.

On a bulb-related note, I have been thrilled with the germination rates
from my bulb exchange seeds, even ones not planted for a few seasons.
Mostly I have liliums and even the more picky US ones have at least poked a
few seedlings up. I have just potted up the survivors from I think my very
first received seed, SIGNA, alophia lahue and cypella coelestis, though
when the plant stand was blown over in a gale and I had to rescue what I
could things became jumbled - there's a pot called "viridis" that is either
lachenalia or ixia, have to wait and see.
The only part of the US I've visited was Baltimore - for a few days just
after Christmas on the way home from eloping to France - enough years ago
that all the young black kids on the train had pagers!!
We visited the Smithsonian to see the moon landing crafts and the
supermarkets to see a cross section of the real life, but wrong time of
year for flora.
Now when I think of travel anywhere it's not really for the culture, it's
to see the trees! (I had expressed a desire to go to Sakhalin island to a
Russian patient, who just have me a look and remarked drily "you like
bears?")

Best

Ceridwen

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On 2 Nov 2013, at 10:15 am, Jim McKenney <jamesamckenney@verizon.net>

wrote:

Ceridwen, I wonder how many non-Australians know what the Australian red

bellied snake and the brown snake are. Your casual references to them gives
no indication. Both are members of the same family as cobras, mambas,
kraits and coral snakes among others. According to the wikipedia entry for
the brown snake, it is the world's second most venomous land snake.

Your poor dogs!

Jim McKenney
Montgomery County, Maryland, USA where we have local snake species

called red bellied snake and brown snake - ours are strictly of the
harmless garden variety.

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