I have 3 different Z. verecunda, a white one https://picasaweb.google.com/105705718728872493718… a dark pink one https://picasaweb.google.com/105705718728872493718… And a white one with red on it https://picasaweb.google.com/105705718728872493718… The last one I have now realised is the same as in Mexico. It has been suggested that the white one is not in fact a verecunda. Certainly it doesn't flower or set seed like the other 2, which set seed at a prodigious rate. I would like to know, is the white one a verecunda? Or something quite different. Ina -- Ina Crossley Auckland New Zealand zone 10a