----- Original Message ----- From: <Johnson3591@aol.com> >>>>>> This is a good question for the casual Web user, many folks do not understand or appreciate the reasoning behind copyright law. That was exceedingly well put, well done, and pointed out a few of the main reasons why I for one got so angry. I have over 500 images of SA bulbs on my site, it doesn't take that long to take the photos, and I enjoy it. It makes a record of seeing a species flower for the very first time, and enables me to share it with everyone else, and it doesn't take any timeat all to upload them on the web. What does take time and cost money is, the building of a specific gene pool / collection, caring for the plants to get them to flower, and then researching them so well, so that you can be as accurate as you can with the naming and taxonomy. I've collected Tulbaghia for eight years now, and this year I can safely say I have the correct identity for 95% of the collection of over 80 plants. If I were to be honest about Crocosmia this figure could be as low as 60%. It's a case of the more you know the more you realise how much there is to prove, to be absolutely certain, and this is especially the case with named heirlooms. Best Wishes, Dave David Fenwick The African Garden 96 Wasdale Gardens Estover Plymouth Devon England PL6 8TW 01752 301402 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com/). Version: 6.0.544 / Virus Database: 338 - Release Date: 26/11/03