>>>>>>Sorry to inadvertantly malign the genus Tulbaghia in passing, without mentioning the other attributes of this fascinating little genus. It is also hoped that David's many new hybrids will become available one day, as they're sure to become popular plants. At the very least, take a winter tour through the Tulbaghia pages at: http://theafricangarden.netfirms.com/page13.html Hi Mark, Sorry I thought you were reffering to flower scent. Yes I must agree they can be quite musty things, but I must admit I don't go round sniffing the pots too much. Tulbaghia upset my wife here every November as I bring all the potted forms inside our lean-to to get all the late ripening seed and to prepare all the pots for their winter dormancy period, the house ends up smelling like a dank garlic store for a few days. Rather funnily, this summer I hurriedly left their preparation for an RHS show until the last minute and decided to get the plants looking just right on the day before the show and in the marque. Within minutes the whole marque was smelling of garlic, and comments were being passed some 90 feet away. This year I'll prepare them away from the venue, but when I get there I'm going to cover them all with a blanket for a couple of hours before the show opens and so that all the night scented species kick out their more acceptable perfume as the show opens. 2003 was a great year here and people were actually coming to my open days just to see the Tulbaghia, now that's a new one on me, and makes a nice change from we've come to see your Crocosmia. The Tulbaghia pages can now be found at http://www.theafricangarden.com/page42.html as I had to move them to a different server as there were getting just too many images. I've just uploaded pics of the true Tulbaghia alliacea Vosa242/9 from a plant collected at Stellenbosch Botanical Reserve, it's flowering here for the first time at the moment. Mark, the most useful pics will be of all the species and because there's a lot of problems with specie identification, if you want to upload any to the wikki please do so. Regarding hybrids there's a lot of breeding work still to be done, and I'm just begining to see the possibilities here. Potentially the best hybrids for landscape use will come from cominsii x violacea stock, and there's quite a lot of scope as well, and due to the numerous forms of violacea that are available. Tulbaghia are exceptionally easy to cross, and its well worth having a go, as they are also very easy to raise from seed and flower within 18 months of sowing. Best Wishes, Dave David Fenwick The African Garden 96 Wasdale Gardens Estover Plymouth Devon England PL6 8TW 01752 301402 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com/). Version: 6.0.550 / Virus Database: 342 - Release Date: 09/12/03