Finding urls for bulb seed collectors is more difficult than for bulb sellers. One site that I have ordered from in the past now seems to have been highjacked by an aggressive internet portal that litters my screen with offers to PC upgrade my Mac. It is particularly convenient to be able to order seeds online, or at least check a regularly updated list, and send an email to ascertain availability before going to the considerable expense of arranging overseas payment. Jim and Jenny Archibald seeds can now be bought online at http://www.jjaseeds.com/ They will stop shipping seeds between mid January and mid March. They currently have a lot of Central Asian seeds and some of a high altitude Nerine bowdenii. This is where I finally was able to get seeds of a plant whose picture I first saw more than 50 years ago - Narcissus cantabricus var petunioides. I received the seed late in October and it germinated in one month. Vojtech Holubec has been collecting in Sikkim which is not really bulb territory, but there are arisaemas and lilies. http://www.delonix.cz/Cz/seminum.php Josef Jurasek has lilies from Mongolia and other bulbs too. I didn't check the whole list, but a quick look showed frits, muscari, junos, tulips. http://www.jurasekalpines.com/ Rocky Mountain Rare Plants has some Western USA alliums, erythroniums, fritillarias on the pages I checked. There may be more bulbs. http://www.rmrp.com/ Fresh trillium seed from New Zealand will be posted before the end of December at http://www.trillium.co.nz/ Silverhill of course always has lots of bulb seeds, and you can ask to be put on a list to be advised when short-lived seeds such as nerine and other amaryllids are ready. http://www.silverhillseeds.co.za/ Clivia seeds available at http://www.shieldsgardens.com/Seeds/index.html I hope some of you can add to this list. -- Diane Whitehead Victoria, British Columbia, Canada maritime zone 8 cool mediterranean climate (dry summer, rainy winter - 68 cm annually) sandy soil