>>>>>>Thoughts so far is that it is a hybrid but still no answer to why the leaves are like they are in the first image. (eg. Is it a property of the parent, then what sort of parent displays this tendancy?). The plants not big probably 12-18 inches or there abouts with flowers a little higher. Hi David, I've had a look at you're pics, I'm almost certain you're plant is a form of Crinum x powellii, and it is quite common for the leaves to be arranged exactly like those in your image. I grow about six forms of C. x powellii here and they are all just the same. Hope this helps. Best Wishes, Dave David Fenwick The African Garden 96 Wasdale Gardens Estover Plymouth Devon England PL6 8TW 01752 301402 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com/). Version: 6.0.556 / Virus Database: 348 - Release Date: 26/12/03