Mary Sue, The Ixioidis Ellen is a Hybrid of Triteliea Ixioidis Scarbra x Triteleia Ixioidis . The Triteleia Rudy is probably a mutant of Triteleia Laxa. I will sent you another picuture of A crossing of Triteleia Ixioidis x Triteleia Hyacinthina. This is a crossing of 2 different sections( section Calliprora and section Hesperoscordum) Best regards Jan -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Mary Sue Ittner [mailto:msittner@mcn.org] Verzonden: donderdag 4 december 2003 17:23 Aan: jan@boltha.nl; Pacific Bulb Society Onderwerp: Re: [pbs] Triteleia hybridising Dear Jan, As someone who loves my native Triteleias, Brodiaeas, and Dichelostemmas I was interested in your information. Here is Jan's Triteleia ixioides hybrid he added to the wiki: http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/… Was it created just from T. ixioides species? I also admired your earlier Triteleia laxa hybrid picture. http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/files/… Can you tell us anything about its parentage? Neither of these are yet on the Triteleia wiki pages. Jan was kind enough to upload them even though the instructions in English are not easy for him to understand and I will add text for him and put them on the pages but am wondering if these are hybrids between species or just between forms. Mary Sue PBS List Administrator, Wiki Worker, TOW Coordinator (Whew!)