With Aplogies to both Bill Maher and John MacGregor: New Rules for pronouncing Latin or any foreign words 1. Be the first person to say it. Even if wrong this gives you Priority. Others will follow 2. Speak LOUDLY. Make sure everyone hears you. 3. Speak with Conviction. Do not hesitate or stumble. In most cases people will adapt and those who object will look like whiners. Of course it helps if you do pronounce all the letters and in the correct order. It is hard to accommodate an alternate pronunciation that does not complete the basics of the English language. And don't hold me to any of this. Best Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +