It has been kindly pointed out to me in another list that there is a short article in the 1996 issue of HERBERTIA discussing the history of the yellow Ismene hybrid 'Sulphur Queen'. According to that note, William Herbert made the cross in the 1800s and coined the name x-spofforthiae for narcissiflora x amancaes. Van Tubergen subsequently repeated the cross and produced the cultivar named 'Sulphur Queen'. Len Woelfle repeated the cross and produced the cultivars 'Icon', 'Helios' and 'Pax'. The hybrid could have been shown before it was introduced into commerce, of course. It can take a few years to bulk up a clone enough for introduction into trade. Jim Shields At 06:06 AM 7/5/2010 -0700, you wrote: >On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:49 AM, Jim McKenney wrote: > >>Judy, surely the date is 1930 rather than 1830, right? > >Jim, > >How could it receive a First Class Certificate from the Royal >Horticultural Society in 1927 if it was not introduced until 1930? > >John C. MacGregor IV >jonivy@earthlink.net ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA