Hi All, I will post my panorama pics might even try to paste it together if I can figure out how to do it on my software. That way someone would be able to give me a good guess on time frame for the ripeness of seed. The tea bags are a good idea but that entails yet another trip in addition to collecting seed. lol Justin Woodville, TX 8b/9a _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy/…