Hymenocallis / Ismene
Jacob Knecht (Mon, 05 Jul 2010 05:42:02 PDT)

Jim's point is important. Sometimes the taxonomic shuffling can seem
unremarkable to the non-botanist horticulturist, but in the case of Ismene
vs. Hymenocallis, the disticntion is not only significant on a morphological
or molecular level but also on a geographical and climatic level. Ismene
are from various altitudes within the Andes Mountain range while
Hymenocallis range covers the US South, Caribbean and Meso America.

I am sure anyone gardening in say Louisiana will freely volunteer that the
climate is not very similar to Cusco, Peru. This may account for why Ismene
amancaes or its hybrids aren't as easy to grow as other Hymenocallis in the
US South?

Jacob Knecht

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On 5 July 2010 05:29, J.E. Shields <jshields@indy.net> wrote:

Hi all,

Thad Howard notes in his book that Alan Meerow resurrected the genus Ismene
in about 1990 for the Andean species that were for some years included in
Hymenocallis. Alan is one of the most authoritative experts on New World
Amaryllidaceae, KAVB's 1991 opinions notwithstanding.

Note that carribaea and occidentalis are members in good standing of
Hymenocallis.

Jim Shields

At 07:21 AM 7/5/2010 -0400, you wrote:

The International Checklist for Hyacinths and Miscellaneous Bulbs, KAVB,
1991 edition:

Hymenocallis 'Sulphur Queen' - narcissiflora (Jacq.) J.F. Macbr. x
amancaes (Ruiz Lopez & Pavon) Nicholson
Tubergen, 1830; flowers primrose-yellow, 6 per umbel, throat light yellow
with green stripes. (2n=74)
F.C.C.-R.H.S. 1927

Ernest Chabot in his "How to Grow Rare Greenhouse Plants," published in
1952, lists I. carribaea, winter flowering; I. occdentalis,
spring-flowering; I. festalis. He then goes on to mention that "Several
named varieties are also available. Sulphur Queen has light yellow blooms of
rare beauty."

Interesting from an historical perspective, while 'Sulphur Queen' is not
mentioned in John C. Wister's "Bulbs for American Gardens," published in
1930, on page 209ff. in the chapter on tender bulbs he mentions Hymenocallis
. . . includes Ismene and goes on briefly "Some of them, macrostephana,
speciosa, and caribea, are winter blooming, and should be treated like
Crinums. They need a warm temperature and should be rested in the summer.
Other species such as calathina, Harrisiana, Macleana, rotata and
littoralis, require a cooler temperature but still greenhouse and they bloom
in the spring and summer and rest in the winter. A few like lacera and
galvestonensis are hardy in the Southern States and bloom in the spring."
All of which perhaps indicates that this wide range of Hymenocallis / Ismene
were to some extent available.

Judy in New Jersey where the La Nina summer has settled in with sunshine,
high temperatures, and no rain
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