Manfreda virginica is highly fragrant, especially in the evenings. I was just in the Ouachita's (of Arkansas) and saw about 300-400 stems in flower along a roadside in a very small area about 100 sq feet. These plants were about 4 feet in height. In east TX I saw some scattered plants in a powerline ROW that were nearly 8 feet and strictly upright. In the garden, my Tennessee forms are usually about 6 feet and arching. The species varies a lot. The leaf maculation and habit is something to watch for. Most forms have faint red at their leaf bases, but some are glaucous-green - these usually flaccid. I have some from the Ozarks that are relatively stiff leaved, undulate margined and nearly completely red spotted base to apex. Aaron --- On Fri, 7/2/10, Steve Marak <samarak@gizmoworks.com> wrote: Dennis, But the flowers on ours are definitely fragrant, as were all of the ones in the population from which this one came (now covered with concrete). Steve