Ellen wrote of Crinum x powellii: "I excavated my pink ones last year and discarded them - far too much leaf for the flower power..." I'll bet the roster of those who have eventually dug out Crinum x powellii because of the poor bloom to foliage ratio looks like a who's who of north temperate horticulture! Actually, let me modify that: not only a roster of who's who but also a roster of those with very strong backs or "staff". Jim McKenney