Ton's photos
Ton Wijnen (Mon, 16 Aug 2010 11:33:54 PDT)

James

I have just receiving the name from my Japanese friend.
It is
Lycorus longituba x striata var. pumila. Japanese name: Komachi

Ton

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Dear Ton,
Thanks for posting a slew of very interesting pix.

I did have a second and third take on this one labelled
Lycoris longituba x striata :

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LJGFWQCLHM3N5RI2PBS3NSIT5U…

I wonder what this really is. I don't doubt this is the name
you received with this bulb, but there is no valid species named L.
striata and this is not a synonym for any other species.

So what does it look like, to me?

First it seems to have NO L. longitbua in it background. L.
longituba has very smooth, never ruffled , petals and the stamens
never protrude beyond the petals/tepals. The latter is
characteristic of the entire subgenus Symmanthus.

I suspect it is in the subgenus Lycoris which includes those
with spidery shaped flowers, ruffled tepals and protruding stamens,
but which species? I admit less knowledge of these generally more
tender ( but not all) species in this larger subgenus. Can you give
some idea of the height of the flower stalk? or diameter of the
individual flowers?

By the process of elimination and lot of guessing, it might
be L. radiata var. kazukoana. This variety is native to Honshu, has
paler flowers, tepals less reflexed than typical, but otherwise
similar. Just a guess. I've only seen a few pix, never the real thing
so this is just my guess IF it is a single species. The petals on
your flower seem too wide.

I'd sure like to see more pix and some measurements of your
plant if possible.

Finally, this is the only pic I could find of L. radiata var.
kazukoana on the web. Not sure how accurate this is either, but it is
interesting, too. About 1/4 of the way down this large page:

http://translate.google.com/translate/…
kinioowaretaoze/c/24183ba4d7e2d4f3ff4f1342d8406a13&ei=yBFoTNCdNZK8sQOGlJGoDQ
&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=36&ved=0CK8BEO4BMCM&prev=/search%3Fq%3DL
ycoris%2Bradiata%2Bvar.%2Bkazukoana%26num%3D100%26hl%3Den%26newwindow%3D1%26
client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den%26prmd%3Db

Of course it could be any of a large number of Japanese
hybrids produced for the bulb trade. L. radiata pumila is at the very
least one likely parent.

Best Jim W.

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