>This is well-known in both Hemerocallis and Clivia. It is >"polytepalism" (I guess you could call it) and one or more entire >sectors of the flower, in all 4 whorls, are duplicated -- stigma >lobe, ovary locule, stamens, petal, and sepal. > >It is genetically quite distinct from doubles in which whorls 3 >(stamens) and/or 4 (pistil) are converted partly or entirely to >petals. Dear Jim S, Good point. I agree these are multipetalled, rather than 'true' doubles, but the only multipetal Lycoris I can recall is the double radiata and no other multipetals. I wonder how many bulbous genera have BOTH true doubles AND multipetal forms. Any guesses? Does anyone need definitions of multipetal versus double? Best Jim W. Some general definitions - but there are many exceptions, variations and unique examples - Single Flowers -Those with a standard set of floral parts - 6 petals, or 3 standards and 3 falls, 6 tepals etc for that variety of plant. Full sexual parts. Semidouble Flowers - Those with more than the standard number of floral parts and some of the sexual parts missing and transformed into petal - like structures. May or may not be fertile. Double Flowers - Those in which all flower parts are transformed into petals or petal-like structures. No sexual parts. Infertile. Multipetal - Flowers that have extra parts such as 8 instead of 6 petals, extra sexual parts, extra stigmas etc. These can vary from just a few extra petals to many, but flower parts are usually identifiable without transformation into petaloids. aka polypetalous -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +