Re the answers to Dave Ehrlich's question-- How can one tell? How does one make the distinction necessary? from a photograph. Length of tepals" curvature quality? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim McKenney" <jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com> To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [pbs] Ismene seedling -- is this the ture narcissiflora? David Ehrlich asked " this the ture narcissiflora?" No, David, your parent plant is one of the plants known as x festalis, an old hybrid between narcissiflora and longiflora. At least two clones of x festalis are in commerce, maybe more. One, a big robust one, is called Zwanenburg. Hymenocallis longipetala is also known as Elisena longipetala. Also, I'm not sure those big green marbles are true seeds. I'm pretty sure they are a form of asexual reproduction seen in other amaryllids, too (such as Crinum). However, many amaryllids evidently produce nothing but these big soft "seeds". I'm not sure what to make of them. I would like to hear what the other amaryllid enthusiasts say about them. Amaryllid experts, speak up please! -----Original Message----- From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of David Ehrlich Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:10 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: [pbs] Ismene seedling -- is this the ture narcissiflora? Some years ago I purchased a bulb or bulbs of Hymenocallis or Ismene species calathina or narcissiflora at a big box store. I also bought a Sulphur Queen, and put them in the same pot. After the first year or two, the Sulphur Queen ceased existing, but the white-flowered plant continues to increase. Today I have 9 scapes, 5 of which are already in bloom. I don't know whether I have the true Ismene narcissiflora or not, but my plant is fertile and produces a few ¾ inch green immies (spheres) every year. I'm still learning how to raise the seedlings. I have been growing a seedling from one of last year's seeds for about 2 months. I planted the seed just below the soil last September or October, and left it outside during our very wet winter. The cotyledon emerged above ground around mid-June. It already has two stems (it could be that the second stem is from a second seed, but I did not plant them that close together). The parent plant stands about 3½' tall, leaves are 2' x 2". You are invited to view David's photo album: Ismene seedling Ismene seedlingAug 14, 2010 by David This is my seedling. The parent may be Ismene narcissiflora -- it's a bulb or bulbs that I've had for years. View Album Play slideshow Contribute photos to this album Message from David: My several year old Ismene, which I purchased at a big box store as ??.calathina or narcissiflora regularly produces a few 3/4" green seeds which I am learning how to raise. After the photo of the parent flower I have photos of the seedling. It is now about 2 months old, either has 2 stems or a second seed has germinated. If you are having problems viewing this email, copy and paste the following into your browser: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/sredir/… 05435137612042161&authkey=Gv1sRgCJyvo9qqkvfCmgE&feat=email To share your photos or receive notification when your friends share photos, get your own free Picasa Web Albums account. _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/