Yes, Jim, I liked those two pages. Nice big print, clear information, and lovely pictures, better than most sites that are trying to sell the bulbs. About umbellatum it says: Cultivated and escaped into open fields, waste ground, parks, open woods, roadsides, railroads. I assume people in your area behave similarly to those here. Those bulbs didn't leap out of the garden on their own and colonize waste ground. Instead, people weeded their garden and trundled the weeds to the nearest public space where they dumped the wheelbarrow full of whatever they didn't want. That gave the weedy bulbs their start. Diane Whitehead Victoria, British Columbia, Canada maritime zone 8, cool Mediterranean climate mild rainy winters, mild dry summers